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 Post subject: Concierge
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 am 
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NEVER give your keys and car to the hotel concierge.

I worked as a night manager at several prominent gold coast hotels.

Drive into work at 2230, and see what was in the car park that night.

Stroll over to the concierge desk a little later and see what there were keys for.

At about 0300 on your usual night check duties, casually swing by concierge desk and pick up the keys to whatever grabbed your fancy.

Drive it just over to the adjoining maze of long straights of the broadbeach shopping centre. Often with their night security with you - when they could drag themselves away from the tennis courts looking into the windows of the hotel for the obvious with binoculars.... :rofl:

And flog FSCUK out of it. :rofl: :rofl:

I even drove a Jalpa one night! 8)

Always liked the 928s. Just so solid..........

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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I came so close to putting a brand new Honda Prelude into a pole. That rear wheel/4 wheel steer thing was - surprising - when you first experienced it. I'd read about it, but it felt wrong when you turned. It was like there was a midget in the back somewhere with another steering wheel and their own idea of what should be happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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Fscking midgets! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:22 am 
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Always wanted a drive of one of those 4ws things. It seemed brilliant and exotic to a 12yr old as I was. No I feel it sounds like too much tech. Wasn't it designed for low speed parking applications. :hehe:

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:32 am 
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bowie wrote:
Always wanted a drive of one of those 4ws things. It seemed brilliant and exotic to a 12yr old as I was. No I feel it sounds like too much tech. Wasn't it designed for low speed parking applications. :hehe:


I think it was for parking but on your way from low speed to high speed it would do it's thing if you moved the wheel.

Yeah I too had read about it endlessly. I think it won Wheels Car Of The Year?.

There is a good reason it quietly left the market.

They were a nice car that model Honda. Same with the Civic.

That really was sort of Hondas glory days (early 90s)

I never got into an NSX :oops: - I really wanted to.

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:18 am 
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bowie wrote:
Always wanted a drive of one of those 4ws things.


G102 Charades were marketed as having "passive" 4WS.

The reality behind the marketing was that the rear suspension flexed when you loaded it laterally, changing the toe angle :rofl:

I guess they designed around the inherent softness of the IRS, and tuned it so that the flex-toe was in a direction that didn't completely suck. Hey presto, passive rear-steer!

Having owned G102s... I reckon 4WS is overrated :getmecoat:

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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I think it was for parking but on your way from low speed to high speed it would do it's thing if you moved the wheel.


My understanding of the proper active RWS systems is that they were speed sensitive.

At low speed, they turned the rear wheels the opposite direction to the fronts, to reduce turning circle.

At high speed, they turned the rear wheels the same direction as the fronts (but at much less angle), so the car would kind of drift through the corner without breaking traction.

Never drove one.

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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barefoot wrote:
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I think it was for parking but on your way from low speed to high speed it would do it's thing if you moved the wheel.


My understanding of the proper active RWS systems is that they were speed sensitive.

At low speed, they turned the rear wheels the opposite direction to the fronts, to reduce turning circle.

At high speed, they turned the rear wheels the same direction as the fronts (but at much less angle), so the car would kind of drift through the corner without breaking traction.

Never drove one.

tim



I think you are right. It was interesting technology.

I just know that when you are doing something HIGHLY illegal at speed in a large area FULL of big concrete pillars and walls on no sleep, the last thing you need is a mechanical product proudly designed by a room full of geeks back in Japan who have never driven a car and catch the bus/train to work, trying to second guess what you are going to do before you could guess in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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barefoot wrote:
PeterH wrote:
I think it was for parking but on your way from low speed to high speed it would do it's thing if you moved the wheel.


My understanding of the proper active RWS systems is that they were speed sensitive.

At low speed, they turned the rear wheels the opposite direction to the fronts, to reduce turning circle.

At high speed, they turned the rear wheels the same direction as the fronts (but at much less angle), so the car would kind of drift through the corner without breaking traction.

Never drove one.

tim


That is exactly right. Great for high speed driving, flicking between lanes on the motorway etc.
The parking speed stuff was just annoying, as you have to re-adjust your parking method. If you have no issue parking anyway, the first time you try and reverse park the thing it feels all-wrong.
More annoying is that. everytime Katie drove it, she upset it. If your too close to a kerb and the rear wheel meets resistance turning (hitting the kerb) it has a fit and disables itself.

Great car though! Tempted to buy another if I can find a decent one, they're a bit of a bargain over here.

http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q3/j ... 20Prelude/

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:55 pm 
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My stepdad bought a Mazda with 4ws. Every time they went to card night the old people would stand at the window just to watch the wheels turn the wrong way when he parked. :roll: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:02 am 
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Wish it had it on the Impreza, it might make up for the lack of lock the front wheels have. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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Another tale.

The Concierge at Jupiters Casino (same era) infamously took a blokes 930 Porsche out into the public streets 8O one Saturday night and went to Souhport Spit where they dragged anyone game/stupid enough to try.

The guy made a complaint to Jupiters the next day when he noticed rubber all over his rear guards and his brand new rear tyres mysteriously had no tread left. :rofl:

They went to Court over that one. What were they thinking? :hehe:

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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I once found two large pistols and about $20,000 in cash in the glovebox of this seriously dodgy blokes Roller I had to park (I'm curious and like to poke around peoples cars if I'm in them). He was clearly Italian. Suffice to say I just parked the car and left it at that.


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PeterHoare wrote:
I once found two large pistols and about $20,000 in cash in the glovebox of this seriously dodgy blokes Roller I had to park (I'm curious and like to poke around peoples cars if I'm in them). He was clearly Italian. Suffice to say I just parked the car and left it at that.
Maybe society would be a better place if the owner knew you had gone snooping through his personal items.

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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[quote="grog"][quote="PeterHoare"]I once found two large pistols and about $20,000 in cash in the glovebox of this seriously dodgy blokes Roller I had to park (I'm curious and like to poke around peoples cars if I'm in them). He was clearly Italian. Suffice to say I just parked the car and left it at that.[/quote]Maybe society would be a better place if the owner knew you had gone snooping through his personal items.[/quote]

I reckon it would be. The rest of society might learn it's interesting and a lesson in learning to poke through peoples stuff.

If you casually hand the keys for your car with that stuff in it to someone who you don't know from Adam to take into an enclosed basement just because you think they have been ordained by Flying Spaghetti Monster to be more pious in their duties than Mohamed Mohamed dying on the cross.

Who is the bigger fool? Them or me. I had FUN.

Ferris Buellers Day Off is on tomorrow night. Just think about that Ferrari (which was fake) when it jumps about 20 feet in the air at high speed next time you leave your car with someone 'in charge'.

We like to take advantage of rich folk because we are somehow trusted by them and it's a good 'Fsuck You' to them - we can do you over anywhere anytime when they think rule everything. They don't.

Think of it as some form of political activism with fun! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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[quote="grog"][quote="PeterHoare"]I once found two large pistols and about $20,000 in cash in the glovebox of this seriously dodgy blokes Roller I had to park (I'm curious and like to poke around peoples cars if I'm in them). He was clearly Italian. Suffice to say I just parked the car and left it at that.[/quote]Maybe society would be a better place if the owner knew you had gone snooping through his personal items.[/quote]

You just make sure you don't.

You'd be hopeless at that fringe criminal stuff because you are an uptight moralistic dick. Probably doesn't even appeal to you. Flying Spaghetti Monster you are boring.


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PeterHoare wrote:
You'd be hopeless at that fringe criminal stuff because you are an uptight moralistic dick. Probably doesn't even appeal to you. Flying Spaghetti Monster you are boring.
Yep, boring old Glen, never done a thing wrong in my life. :mrgreen:

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[quote="grog"][quote="PeterHoare"]You'd be hopeless at that fringe criminal stuff because you are an uptight moralistic dick. Probably doesn't even appeal to you. Flying Spaghetti Monster you are boring.[/quote]Yep, boring old Glen, never done a thing wrong in my life. :mrgreen:[/quote]

Well go on - do tell. Don't be shy........


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PeterHoare wrote:
grog wrote:
PeterHoare wrote:
You'd be hopeless at that fringe criminal stuff because you are an uptight moralistic dick. Probably doesn't even appeal to you. Flying Spaghetti Monster you are boring.
Yep, boring old Glen, never done a thing wrong in my life. :mrgreen:


Well go on - do tell. Don't be shy........
I just did, boring, never done a thing wrong in my life.

Gotta be spotless to be a lawyer, didn't you know that?

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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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[quote="grog"][quote="PeterHoare"][quote="grog"][quote="PeterHoare"]You'd be hopeless at that fringe criminal stuff because you are an uptight moralistic dick. Probably doesn't even appeal to you. Flying Spaghetti Monster you are boring.[/quote]Yep, boring old Glen, never done a thing wrong in my life. :mrgreen:[/quote]

Well go on - do tell. Don't be shy........[/quote]I just did, boring, never done a thing wrong in my life.

Gotta be spotless to be a lawyer, didn't you know that?[/quote]

People like stories - it's what the human race does.

So tell us what a bad arse you are/have been. Seriously I'm always up for tips and new knowledge and a great story.

Maybe you don't actually have much of a hand in that area (bit of bait there........)


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 Post subject: Re: Concierge
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PeterHoare wrote:
People like stories - it's what the human race does.
Is that why you make up so many?

As I keep telling you Peter, there are none, and even if there were (and there aren't), you would be the last person I would tell. :wink:

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