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 Post subject: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:00 pm 
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I'm sure I don't need to put the footage up. If you haven't seen it, stay in more and switch on TV.

That was a fsucking gutsy effort though. I'm sure he has rehearsed that scenario in his head more than once, given what he does for a living. But it looked off the cuff and friggin cool as. He didn't freak for an instant.

Though there is mental rehearse, then there is actually punching and kicking a fsucking very big Great White Shark away that appeared out of nowhere from the depths and is going to have a chomp on you to see if you are worth eating or not.

I've had a huge 7 foot long, very cruel looking Barracuda with a mouth of huge razors and dead, yet interested eyes, stalk me once for 5 minutes but never a shark (that I know of). It is scary when scary fish contemplate attack because you are fsucked. You have no hope. He is a lucky lucky boy.

Sharks are going nuts ATM. There is a fatal or attack virtually every other day somewhere around the country.

Good on 'em. :e_wink: I love it when 'Animals Strike Back'.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:56 pm 
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There is a fatal or attack virtually every other day somewhere around the country.
and what country would you be referring to?

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:24 pm 
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Every other day? WTaF?

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:56 pm 
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Do you people watch the news?

I may be a little bit extravagant with "every other day" (though it's not far off) but boy are they ramping up. In the news all the time now.

You'd never hear about a shark attack from one year to another a few years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:23 pm 
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Primarily SA/WA but there are sharks everywhere ATM, dunno why. It's just their time.

The surfies here on GC are on edge. BIG sharks been seen hanging around.

I once watched a 15 footer Great White/Tiger from on high languidly swim around a non knowing surfer at North Straddy. I was screaming at him about the dander but too far away to be heard.

Shark just wandered off eventually. It was enormous.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:15 pm 
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Seconded a motion tonight at the ALP branch meeting demanding the State Parliamentary Party legislate to REMOVE shark nets and baited hooks from the entire Queensland coast.

And Peter, slow news weeks mate. Australia has an average of five attacks and one death a year... "every other day"?

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:22 pm 
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Maybe in the states that don't have shark nets.

I don't agree with them either, but they do actually work through clumsy dumsy fsuck.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:15 am 
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No, they actually don't work... unless by "work" you mean "kill lots of animals other than sharks"?

Sharks can still simply swim up around the end of them anyway. They are not a scientifically prove thing, just a political toy.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:44 am 
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Marc wrote:
No, they actually don't work... unless by "work" you mean "kill lots of animals other than sharks"?
Have you got some free time today?

From the Wikipedia article on Drum Lines:
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utilised on Australia's eastern coast and in South Africa where the numbers of attacks reduced dramatically.


It has two references. One is a dead link, the other is this:
http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/pdf/fishweb/sharksafetyreport.pdf

which contains this:
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Recommendation 1
It is recommended that: the effectiveness of shark, mullet and other baits be evaluated in
controlled statistical trials.
There are many likely factors affecting local shark populations including: reduction in food due to
declining fish stocks; increased boat traffic; water quality and climatic conditions (most notably the
drought); the effectiveness of the SSP in local areas; and overall pressures on shark populations
from legal and illegal fishing. It is extremely unlikely that the declines in catch rate of some species
(particularly tiger sharks), most notable in the southern part of the State, are solely related to a
change in effectiveness of the SSP in these areas. It should be appreciated that trends in catch, of
shark or by-catch, manifest over long timeframes. Accordingly to endeavour to establish cause or
causes of trends, it will be necessary to determine a series of trigger events e.g. peak catch, low
catch which automatically prompt a detailed review of the operation of the SSP in a particular area.


So, the wikipedia article implies that drum lines has reduced the number of sharks, when the referenced article says there has been a reduction, but doesn't say it's because of the drum lines and recommends study to find causal links.

I think the Wikipedia article needs to be adjusted.


If this is such a big thing, surely we can come up with better solutions than nets and baited hooks. What about sonar based early warning systems? FFS, for a couple of hundred bucks, you can get sonars that detect fish for fishermen, why can't they develop sonars that detect sharks, warn people, get out of the water, wait until it passes, and then go back in. No harm to the shark and safer for people in the water.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:48 am 
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And what do you know, somebody is already developing it.

http://www.sharkmitigation.com/clever-buoy-new.html

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:18 pm 
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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... ih255.html

And another today where I swim alllll the time.

It makes you think. The sharks are seemingly on a fsucking mission and have been for some time. I do love it when 'animals strike back'.

But just stay out of the water for a bit. They just seem to be rampant on season or something.

You don't want to be bitten by one out of curiosity or just flat out eaten alive.

There are far more shark attacks (like every other day) more than there were a few years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:20 pm 
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[quote="Marc"]No, they actually don't work... unless by "work" you mean "kill lots of animals other than sharks"?

Sharks can still simply swim up around the end of them anyway. They are not a scientifically prove thing, just a political toy.[/quote]

I'm aware of the collateral damage. But they work in tat there has not been a single death from sharks in Queensland since nets were brought in in the '50s.

Don't get get me wrong, I don't agree with them, but they do work, even if stupidly.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:00 am 
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PeterHoare wrote:
there has not been a single death from sharks in Queensland since nets were brought in in the '50s.
You mean except for the 21 deaths from shark attacks in Queensland since the 1950s?

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They just seem to be rampant on season or something.
The media certainly is.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:09 am 
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What I did find interesting though is that while Victoria doesn't use nets, they haven't had a death since the 1960s.

I recall swimming at Torquay and they sounded the alarm to get out of the water. Everybody rushed out of the water, the surf life saving guys jumped in the boat and went out to scare it off and then it was over.

Then again, they do have attacks, just non-fatal. Maybe it's just that Victorians are tougher. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:15 pm 
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My father used to do the big surf boats off Caloundra long before jet skis. He was always traumatised by the time when he was called out to a shark attack and he pulled this guys arms and just his top half came off whilst screaming and bleeding. He hated sharks.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:12 pm 
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PeterHoare wrote:
My father used to do the big surf boats off Caloundra long before jet skis. He was always traumatised by the time when he was called out to a shark attack and he pulled this guys arms and just his top half came off whilst screaming and bleeding. He hated sharks.
Must have been pre-1950 then, huh?
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PeterHoare wrote:
there has not been a single death from sharks in Queensland since nets were brought in in the '50s.
You mean except for the 21 deaths from shark attacks in Queensland since the 1950s?
Doesn't sit right with the above quote.

grog wrote:
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They just seem to be rampant on season or something.
The media certainly is.
It's a (media) feeding frenzy!

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
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It was. Just after the war.


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Sharks are great

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bowie wrote:
hmmmm, something isn't quite right about that photograph. :scratchchin:


How can that gun fire if it's just been underwater????

I call fake!!!!!!

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der, the barrel was under his drys-a-bone, he only fired it once they breached the surface!

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bowie wrote:
der, the barrel was under his drys-a-bone, he only fired it once they breached the surface!
Ahh, your right, silly me. How could I have bee so stupid, of course it's real then.

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