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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:11 pm 
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[quote="grog"][quote="bowie"][url=http://www.dahmus.org/blogimg/dinosaur_riding_shark_shooting_gun.jpg]Sharks are great[/url][/quote]hmmmm, something isn't quite right about that photograph. :scratchchin:


How can that gun fire if it's just been underwater????

I call fake!!!!!![/quote]

Underwater doesn't necessarily affect a guns ability to fire.

Ask the blokes in the fun of the front line surf at D-Day!


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:05 pm 
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This'll be good...

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:22 pm 
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http://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/ ... nderwater/

Firing guns under water is kids play...........Guns will fire and kill anything anywhere, anytime in my experience.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:25 am 
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In your experience?

:rofl:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:13 pm 
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[quote="Marc"]In your experience?

:rofl:[/quote]

Fsuck yeah. They'll shoot anywhere, anytime basically. Certainly a bit of water doesn't bother them, apart from a bit of long range accuracy due to water differentials.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:12 pm 
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PeterHoare wrote:
[ apart from a bit of long range accuracy due to water
Yeah, like anything more than a metre past the muzzle?

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:56 am 
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Really interesting show '3.30pm The Day The Shark Came In' on the ABC today. They have the whole shark monitoring/warning system taken to a whole new level. All self developed on their own money (Aussies of course). It is amazing. If sharks interest you track it down. Well worth it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:25 am 
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[quote="grog"][quote]There is a fatal or attack virtually every other day somewhere around the country.[/quote]and what country would you be referring to?[/quote]

This one.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/brea ... 7494841513


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:35 pm 
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"Virtually every other day" would be more than 150 per year. Or even 120 in eight months. Have there been 120 this year? Or would this just be your normal level of hyperbole?

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:48 pm 
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Or the one today. He's not well. Sort of lost his hands, his bum and a fair chunk of a leg I believe and not expected to live..

And hey - don't take my word for it. The lifesavers surfers and those involved in that stuff all maintain that the incidents, reported or not, are way way up.

It makes sense - more sharks - less natural food because we catch it all so they move in to get bait fish. They don't like humans, just to have a taste.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:58 pm 
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The lifesavers surfers and those involved in that stuff all maintain that the incidents, reported or not, are way way up.

I suppose it is a bit difficult to report that you've been eaten by a shark.

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[quote="Daisy4Doors"][quote="PeterHoare"]The lifesavers surfers and those involved in that stuff all maintain that the incidents, [size=150]reported or not[/size], are way way up.[/quote]
I suppose it is a bit difficult to report that you've been eaten by a shark.[/quote]

Sharks go boardies often. Just ask the ones on boardie only beaches. They get slammed at 40kmh from the deep, mostly nothing happens but sometimes it does.

There is just no point in reporting it because what, realistically, is going to happen??? And most of them are very supportive of sharks.


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:51 pm 
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Whenever I body surf waaay out in the good stuff off shore basically on your own, I sometimes look down and just get to thinking about this huge thing just randomingly barrelling up at full speed and tearing you apart.

It gives you a serious chill to think how that would work out and that it could actually happen any second, and be careful what you are thinking about. .


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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:38 am 
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On my way home from the snow this weekend on the plane, they were showing a report about this shark attack. One of my friends made some offhand comment about surfing being dangerous.

She had forgotten about the air ambulance helicopter we saw that flew in to transport somebody off the mountain. Somebody probably in just as dire condition, but the media wouldn't have bothered reporting it. Then compare how many people are surfing around the country vs how many people are skiing in the few square kilometers of skiable area in Australia.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:36 pm 
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grog wrote:
On my way home from the snow this weekend on the plane, they were showing a report about this shark attack. One of my friends made some offhand comment about surfing being dangerous.

She had forgotten about the air ambulance helicopter we saw that flew in to transport somebody off the mountain. Somebody probably in just as dire condition, but the media wouldn't have bothered reporting it. Then compare how many people are surfing around the country vs how many people are skiing in the few square kilometers of skiable area in Australia.

Hold up a minute and think about the psychology behind this.

We have one event where someone has hurt themselves by going and engaging in an activity of their own control.
How often do you hear in the news about someone breaking their neck while surfing, or getting cut up by getting thrown onto a reef of oysters?

The other incident involves an action taken by another living creature that results in harm. It's the same reason that terrorism is so much scarier than earthquakes.

Note I'm not disputing the stats - just trying to expand on the viewpoint and refer to a few factors that you would have already considered, and then wrote off.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:57 pm 
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The other incident involves an action taken by another living creature that results in harm.
Who said it wasn't by another living creature? Many accidents at the show are a result of two people colliding. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:19 pm 
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The other incident involves an action taken by another living creature that results in harm.
Who said it wasn't by another living creature? Many accidents at the show are a result of two people colliding. :wink:

Sure - but there's still a lack of mal intent which is present with nutters blowing themselves up, and it's present with sharks eating people (although the shark was just going for a feed...). I did think you would come back with that response though :P

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
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it's present with sharks eating people (although the shark was just going for a feed...)
But it's not, the sharks have just mistaken a person for a seal.

It's a human perception the sharks want to eat us, not a reality.

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Aaaaand we have a winner: "Perception".

Perception is everything.

I just find it interesting to explore the mentality behind these things :D

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:02 am 
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Aaaaand we have a winner: "Perception".

Perception is everything.
Yep, and perception is something the media is greatly responsible for.

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I just find it interesting to explore the mentality behind these things :D
Yep, same here.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharks
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I'm still not sure if your signature is the inside of a box or the outside of a box. :?

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